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Hope
Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 5

    10/30/09 at 05:27 PM
  #1

Go to http://www.petitionproject.org/ to learn more about scientists and global warming and view a petition they have signed.
twit22
Registered: 10/07/07
Posts: 1,772

    10/30/09 at 06:24 PM
  #2

Hi Hope:

Great site, been saying that for awhile along with another person. Thanks so much for the site...
crankyoldguy
Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 666

    11/01/09 at 09:06 AM
  #3

The truth shall set you free.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

crankyoldguy
Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 666

    11/03/09 at 03:18 PM
  #4

November 03, 2009

Al Gore, the first 'carbon billionaire' (updated)

Douglas Lang

Al Gore's is positioned to become a green billionaire thanks to his investment in several 'green energy' companies which reportedly will soon be awarded healthy contracts by the US government. If it were anything other than 'green' energy --  say oil, there would be widespread outrage. 

The UK Telegraph reports:

Last year Mr Gore's venture capital firm loaned a small California firm $75m to develop energy-saving technology.

The company, Silver Spring Networks, produces hardware and software to make the electricity grid more efficient.

The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants, the New York Times reports. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts.

Thomas Lifson adds:

This stinks of corruption. "Grants" means that our tax money is being given to private companies. This "smart grid" push would be financed by private markets if it had economic merit. Keep in mind that with a "smart grid", statists will be able to monitor and control the electricity consumption of individual households from a central location. General Electric, closely aligned with the Obama Left, stands to profit hugely from government money put into the "smart grid."

Update from Randall Hoven

Did Al Gore forget to pay his CPUSA dues?  The New York Times, of all liberal mouthpieces, is outing the former Vice President for the crime of making big money.  l

In this case, though, the way Gore makes that money is not quite the old fashioned way.  (Although, in the sense of the world's oldest profession, it is.)  Here is how it works.

Step 1.  Lobby the world, the country, and the government that it must do something big and soon to save the planet.  In Gore's case, we have his book, his movie, his franchised PowerPoint brief, his Nobel Peace Prize, his Oscar, etc.

Step 2.  Specifically lobby your government to spend big money on projects to save the planet.  Better yet, make sure that money goes to very specific contractors.  In this case, we have "smart grids", which the government is now spending $3.4 billion on. And specifically, a little company called "Silver Spring Networks" got $560 million from the government for it.

Step 3.  Invest in those very specific contractors.  In Al Gore's case, he has a company for this investing kind of thing: Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers.  His company, by coincidence I'm sure, had invested $75 million in Silver Spring.

Step 4.  Collect big money from those investments.  In Al Gore's case, he is also a "corporate adviser" to Silver Spring.

Al Gore defends all this as putting his money where his mouth is and investing in what he believes.  That would almost make sense, were it not for the fact that money is made in this "industry" only because the government is sending dump-trucks full of money to these companies.

One would think that, with energy costing so much, good old profit-maximizing corporations would be looking for ways to cut energy costs.  But apparently, Al Gore, Barack Obama and other energy experts know better.  They know so much, in fact, that they will invest billions of your tax dollars where even greedy capitalists fear to tread.

Funny how Democrat politicians know how to make money better than greedy capitalists, isn't it?  You might think our government is many trillion dollars in debt.  But Gore and Obama actually saved or created trillions of dollars over the years with their investments of your money.  Just ask Joe Biden.

Thomas Lifson adds:

I posit another step for Gore: secure flattering media coverage, such as this over-the-top cover story in Newsweek titled wit the caption: "The Thinking man's thinking man." This about the a guy whose college science grades at Harvard were disgraceful.
twit22
Registered: 10/07/07
Posts: 1,772

    11/05/09 at 10:44 AM
  #5

Cranky:

Great Article, tks. But remember you cannot say this about Al baby as he invented the internet, lol. Anyway a while back not sure how long ago, both of us discussed the topic of Global warming on here and the info you put up was great. I forget but I seem to remember you were in engineering or something in the sciences. Am I correct in that?

Also as I stated on here as you did don't remember which thread, there are so many scientists who have spoken and have not been involved or let to be involved with the Global warming sham as they can prove differently. Do you remember who they were? Just wondering. take care, bye julia
crankyoldguy
Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 666

    11/05/09 at 12:39 PM
  #6

  Yes, I work in engineering and have for 40 years and have been certified by the N.S.P.E. (National Society for Professional Engineers) for decades. 
 The names are listed on that petition posted in # 1 of this thread.  32,000 scientists and engineering can't be wrong. 
  You can count on politically connected scientists to be motivated by the source of their grant money.  The truth is only a tool used to aquire funding. 
  I want to die an honest man more than I want to die a rich one so I join the signers of that petition with my whole being.  Everything else is politically motivated crap science.
twit22
Registered: 10/07/07
Posts: 1,772

    11/05/09 at 04:06 PM
  #7

Cranky:

Your last statement really is a testimony of the type of person you are. That is great no wonder being in Engineering for 40 years you are so smart. I envy people like you. I know there is all types of Engineering jobs, what is your forte? That is if you don't mind telling me. I would understand. So it would seem to me that we have to be close in age or there abouts.

My husband engineering in the Air Force. Once he left he went into the Aviation and Avionics part of the industry and on and on.  You can tell people that are in that field as they have to be so precise on everything. That is why I make him nuts. But it has to be right or he will not quit until he makes it right. Very different minds than others I think. It is a good thing as he has taught me alot and vice versa. I crack up as he lines all the canned vegetables of the same kind together, and I could care less..hahahahahha. It drives him insane..lol

Thanks for sharing...bye julia
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