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SamIam
Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 2,672

    11/06/09 at 08:31 AM
  #1

When did we vote to approve $243,660.00 to build a Field & Rec House at WHS ?

Where did this money come from ?

When do they start construction of the track and field without voter approval ?

Why stop now.....we built a road, hired an asst. GBS principal, hiring an additional asst. superintendant, created a new tradition by manipulating our youth in a bogus vote, unlimited spending in a default budget, laptops, planting the seed to IB curriculum, open with two classes-continuing to pay tuition to Salem - all without voter approval or permission...

Really - why stop now....you are on a roll...


Ghost
Registered: 02/15/06
Posts: 242

    11/06/09 at 09:00 AM
  #2

 This town really needs to wake up! WSB is way out of control. You think your tax rate is up this year. The best is yet to come. Sam I really think people don't care it is unreal. Dr.Bass needs to be reeled in on spending.


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SamIam
Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 2,672

    11/06/09 at 10:15 AM
  #3

Ghost -

I do believe people care but their only recourse is on election day.

We have voted out most guilty elected volunteers (some chose not the run again because they knew) and failed many warrants including a school budget since 2008.

The above hasn't seemed to stop them spending and ignoring the voters - even with a default budget...yet they blame the economy for their election failures.

The same ole elected volunteers have found ways to circumvent and ignore the voters with some sort of legaleeze excuse.

or the default reason  - "its for the kids"



SamIam
Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 2,672

    11/06/09 at 02:19 PM
  #4

How much was donated last night by SB to fix the media/cable studio at the WHS that wasn't wired correctly?

The BOS approved $50K - not sure what it was for exactly and cable met w/ SB last night for additional funding..
husky96
Registered: 11/06/09
Posts: 7

    11/06/09 at 02:32 PM
  #5

When did this happen?  I have not seen anything in the news.  Will look around the school and town websites.  $243K seems really cheap for a fieldhouse and a track & field.  Usually the new ‘turf’ fields with a track run just above a $1 million (North Reading being the most recent I could find).  I do think WHS needs a track & field and some stands for the football field, but it does need to be done the right way.

As for the cable wire item, that does not bother me.  Just like anything news, some ‘bugs’ will have to worked out of WHS.  OK to pay for it now to get it fixed; but, make sure if it was a construction error, the town goes back to the builder to get the money.

SamIam
Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 2,672

    11/06/09 at 03:55 PM
  #6

$243,660.00 to build a Field & Rec House which was approved under the radar screen. Construction is on front page on Windy Indy.

I was just saying - why not build a track and field since the budget is bottomless and voters are irrelevant and non-binding anyway..

There has been no mention of track and field for 2010 ballot when it was an end of the world issue last year...that tells me the elected volunteers have another avenue to make it happen since they can't rely on voter support anymore...

not_you
Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 305

    11/06/09 at 04:28 PM
  #7

SI,

Don't you admire the WSB's resourcefulness?
SamIam
Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 2,672

    11/06/09 at 05:18 PM
  #8

I would absolutely admire it it if I was a "communist" who despised democracy and the American way.

The WSB, BOS, Not_you and your fellow apologists should go to the Windham Veterans Cemetary on Nov 11th and all collectively take a whizz on their graves as your way to say "thank you" since you support ignoring the voters and the democratic process in Windham.
crankyoldguy
Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 666

    11/06/09 at 07:13 PM
  #9

  While you're at it you may as well continue to wizz on the veterans, retired folks and others on fixed or decreasing incomes who are hard pressed to pay the ever increasing tax burden caused by funding so many toys for the select few who think we owe it to them.
   Once you understand the simple rule of economics 101; "there ain't no such thing as free lunch", and realize that everything cost money, you might become adult enough to be able to distinguish between the things you want and the things you really need.  Even if one can do that, many residents are having to reduce or adjust their list of "needs" in order to keep the books balanced.  If the "town" is working for us, why do they spend money as though Windum was "Fantasy Island" and we were all millionaires?

twit22
Registered: 10/07/07
Posts: 1,767

    11/06/09 at 08:56 PM
  #10

I am putting my 2 cents in. I don't get how they can do this at all. No I do not live there anymore. But I pay taxes which have just been raised and I can't sell my house due to the Ledge Rd. Mess (PROVEN). Don't anyone think for one minute that the blasting at the school was not an issue too. It is just that Ledge Rd. was so big the school bombing fell under the wire. That blasting did much destruction too. Again it's a secret  let's not talk about it.

Maybe I should ask the school for the money they are spending on the F/R House and give it to me as a down payment on my house and they can build all they want on my land that they will own. The remaining balance of the house can be paid in monthly installments. How does that sound? I am not off topic by any means.

not_you you just don't get it AT ALL. All this spending and people seem to forget about Ledge Rd. why not ask the Town at a BOS meeting where this situation sits right now. There was a victory in the Superior court against Meadowcroft, but that was round 1. What if they come after the Town again? And we lose? And people are concerned about lighting Griffin Park, missed JV scores and bust JCarpi's chops about it, plus other BS.

The entire world is in an economic whirlwind and no one knows where or what will happen once it stops and this is your concern a F/R House?  I am all for sports, but how much money can be spent when there is none?  And let's not forget not honoring the votes, again does not matter the issue the VOTES WERE NEVER HONORED. NOT_YOU I will send up your armband and you can retreive it from the SB.. ..Oh did you watch the tickertape parade for the Yankee's, lol have a dandy night...julia, the twit...

tjcase
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Registered: 02/03/03
Posts: 1,261

    11/06/09 at 09:27 PM
  #11

32:8 Limitation on Expenditures. – No board of selectmen, school board, village district commissioners or any other officer, employee, or agency of the municipality acting as such shall pay or agree to pay any money, or incur any liability involving the expenditure of any money, for any purpose in excess of the amount appropriated by the legislative body for that purpose, or for any purpose for which no appropriation has been made, except as provided in RSA 32:9-11.

Above is the State Law. Where did we appropriate money for a Field House? It wasn't part of the construction bond that we approved to build a new High School. They are apparently using (FF&E) Furniture Fixtures and Equipment money left over from the project. What category does this Field House fall under? What Line Item is this in the Budget, for the Field House?
twit22
Registered: 10/07/07
Posts: 1,767

    11/06/09 at 10:20 PM
  #12

not_you:

Saw your comment about air biscuit, with all the blowhard wind in your body, you would blow the town down. Do you have an evacuation plan prior to doing this? Please advise alcon and especially FEMA as it could be disastrous...
twit22
Registered: 10/07/07
Posts: 1,767

    11/07/09 at 12:02 AM
  #13

Tom:

They probably hid it in the budget under some line item such as start up costs, FF & E as you stated, maybe they built in on each line item additional percentiles knowing that they would not need it and padded the budget.

I am sure there are and were so many line items, that they could put in each line item a few percentiles to get this type of extra money. Who questioned it? Obviously no one. Yet they forgot to put in the road..my God, they probably were so concerned about padding the budget that is why they forgot all about the access road. Makes sense to me.

When you are doing things that may be somewhat sneaky,it comes back to bite you one way or the other. The way I see it with these boards, they should have to have an outside agency or auditor come in and explain every line item and prove why they put those monies in there, the reasoning, why at the percentile and so forth prior to any approval by anyone. Then you know there have been true checks and balances. The way it seems to me is they just have money flowing from all areas and no one knows where it came from...but they do! What a joke...really.. No one is really watching the money, anyone can make fuzzy math work if they wanted too... but not if there was an auditor involved. All line items should be questioned and questioned until they cannot stand it. That is how it is done in the business world. Now aren't they running a business too with our money? Where were the checks and balances and not from those on the team so to speak...

Van
Registered: 10/14/09
Posts: 16

    11/07/09 at 07:19 AM
  #14

I heard that The Town is presenting the budget on November 16th.  I bet they wont have any hidden money ....
HOW DOES THE SCHOOL GET AWAY WITH THIS...AND WHY CAN THEY?

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MichaelHatem
Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 116

    11/07/09 at 08:08 AM
  #15

The field house is being paid for from the construction loan.  It has always been part of the construction package and has been discussed, in public, on numerous occasions with Glen Davis over the course of the project.  Each school board has postponed doing the work until the end of the project for budgetary reasons.  Tom knows better than to make the accusations he has made.

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